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Jazzymatt
(249 posts)
wrote on 11/7/09 2:58 PM
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Hi Void,
If youd like some more info on the Greeks, you could have a read of an article series I wrote. Here is part 1. http://www.optionetics.com/market/articles/19033
enjoy, regards, Matt
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Void
(20 posts)
wrote on 11/6/09 10:51 PM
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thank you for the reply. what's this platinum stuff? i see this on optionetics site as well. looks like it's a subscription only access. any details on platinum? cost and platinum features you like etc.?
i haven't used any risk graph analysis tool till now. i will try it for various strategies and hopefully, that should increase my understanding. i need to first get access to this tool.
BTW: I really appreciate your clear and organized thinking. It's evident from your message.
Thanks.
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Acts68
(117 posts)
wrote on 11/3/09 8:11 PM
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Hi Void,
Just punch in your 4 legged position into Plantinum or Think or Swim Analyze Risk and it will give you the risk graph and the greeks for the position.
If you are having trouble understanding the greeks go back a few steps. First we need to get our head around the greeks for sinle options: Long Call, Long Put, Short call, Short Put. Then step it up to 2 leg positions: Long & Short Verticle spreads, both Puts and Calls, then Time Spreads, long and short, same strikes & diagonals.
If we have missed something with 2 legs, we will struggle to understand 3 & 4 Leg Trades. Similarly, trades involving different months are more involved than all the legs in the same expiry month.
Cheers,
PS. It is probable that you will get more specific answers if you do ask more specific questions.
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Void
(20 posts)
wrote on 11/3/09 7:49 PM
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Folks,
i am new to this stuff and getting confused about the greeks. please let me explain my confusion so that some one may be able to clarify this for me.
i am considering 4 legged positions involving debit and/or credit spreads and possibly diagonal spreads.
there are many possible characteristics for the entire position:
- long or short - bullish/bearish/sideways/breakout scenarios for the underlying asset price - bullish/bearish/neutral/breakout scenarios for the underlying IV
also, the position has different states, max loss asset price(s)/range, break even asset price(s), max profit asset price(s)/range, and the delta, gamma, theta, vega are dynamically changing as the asset price is moving among these different states of the position. you want different characteristics for these greeks in those different states of your position during the life of your position.
to start with, are there any graph/chart kind of tools for the greeks of a position covering those different states of the position. in other words, i want to see the values of the greeks for my position in a chart form for different asset prices covering those different states of my position?
what i am visualizing seems to be complex. may be i am simply getting confused.
can someone give me a gist of this following: for each possible position scenario, what is desired. (+ve delta, -ve gamma, +ve theta, +ve vega) kind of an answer is what i am looking for.
if you think this is too time consuming, and i think it is, please refer me to some good book at least.
Thanks.
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